The Famly Interview
Andy McCormack on How We Learn to Love Reading

Why children’s books are front and centre in healthy growth.

What was your favourite story your parents read to you when you were young?

Odds are, something immediately comes to mind. Which just goes to show, the stories we share when we’re little follow us our whole lives.

None of this is news to Andy McCormack — in fact, it’s the very core of his work.

Andy is an Early Years teacher himself, and on top of that, he’s working on his Ph.D. at the University of Cambridge. With the Center for Research in Children’s Literature at Cambridge, Andy’s research focuses on children’s literature — how the books we read when we’re young can help us grow and learn the rest of our lives.

I caught up with Andy at this year’s Nursery World Show in London, where we talked about what makes a proper children’s book, and why they should be at the heart of your curriculum.

You can take a look at some of the biggest insights from the interview in the clips below, or scroll to the bottom of the page to watch the full 11-minute interview.

Andy McCormack: The 5 key interview takeaways
  • A good children’s book needs good text and good illustrations. The two aspects should tell stories of their own, and complement one another through the story.
  • If a children’s book is engaging, children won’t need much encouragement to keep coming back to it. In this sense, they’re a great way to get children started on lifelong skills like listening, reading and reflection.
  • Every child has their own preferences in children’s books, so it’s important you keep a library that speaks to different themes, topics and illustration styles.
  • A big part of sharing stories is experiential. Children remember who was reading, how they read, and how they felt — so as an educator, you need to make sure your story-sharing environment is comfortable and engaging.
  • By modeling that we value stories through the way we share books and treat them, children learn from adults just how important stories and storytelling can be.
What makes a good children’s book?

As Andy explains, one of the most critical factors of a good children’s book is how the text and illustrations work together.

He points to Rosie’s Walk as a classic example — by the text alone, it’s the story of a hen named Rosie who goes for a walk about the farm. But with the illustrations, we see the sly fox following her, and he gets tripped up and scraped in obstacles about the farm. So it’s about the illustrations telling a story of their own, too.

The importance of a good illustrator

At the 1:15 timestamp, Andy expands on that point, and tells why the illustrator is just as important as the author. Especially for children, illustrations give expressions, colour and motions to the text, really bringing the whole thing to life. So in evaluating a good children’s book, it’s not enough to just look at the writing — you’ve got to think about how the illustration fills out the story.

How do children’s books encourage learning?

There’s a lot of learning to be had in a good book. As Andy says, “Phonics and vocabulary are happy byproducts of engaging with a really high-quality picture book.”

In his view, a good children’s book gets right to a lot of the core learning laid out in the EYFS foundations. It’s got to have a good story, engaging characters, beautiful illustration, and a good interplay between words and image. If the book’s got all these, children will naturally want to come back to it over and over. If you pick the right books, it makes for an easy and appealing way to get children started on the learning goals that can often cause anxieties among educators.

Giving children the full experience

That said, it’s not just about picking a good book — it’s also about the experience of reading it. If you think about your own experiences with reading stories as a child, a big part of that is likely experiential: Where you were, who you were with, how the story sounded, and how it made you feel.

So with that in mind, Andy says it matters that as an educator, you’re committed to sharing the experience of a story. You should definitely pick a good read, but also share the story in an environment that’s comfortable and engaging for children.

Helping children understand themselves

Just before the 4-minute mark, Andy gets into how stories can help children explore who they are, and what they’re interested in. Different children are drawn to different books — it might be the illustrations, themes or topics that catch their eye. There’s a story for each taste and experience, and one for nearly every curriculum teaching goal you might have. That’s why it’s important to keep a well-stocked library of children’s books.

Keeping your library fresh

So what makes a good library? Well, Andy says, having some classics in there makes sense. It’s good to have some books that adults might have grown up with themselves, because it makes it more special to share those with children. But there are plenty of great new children’s books coming out, too. Plus, there are plenty of organisations making lists of the best of what’s new. If you’re looking for inspiration, Andy recommends looking at the Centre for Literacy in Primary Education, BookTrust or Empathy Lab.

Andy’s favourite children’s books

Right around the 5:50 timestamp, Andy gets into his personal favourite children’s books and authors. He says Emily Gravett is one of his favourite contemporary authors and illustrators of the moment. In terms of best reads, he points to Charlie McKazie’s The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse or Helen Oxenbury and Eugene Trivizas’ The Three Little Wolves and the Big Bad Pig as modern classics in children’s literature.

How should practitioners read with children?

Again, it’s not just what you read, but how you read it. Think back to your own memories — who read to you, and what did you read? What images do you remember, what sounds do you remember, how was the rhythm of their speech?

The point is, these are things that the children in your setting will remember, too. Especially for children who might not come from a literature-rich background, taking extra steps to make story time a special experience will go a long way in boosting children’s vocabulary, speaking and listening skills.

Nurturing a lifelong love of reading

Andy believes it’s vital that reading and sharing stories is embedded within the EYFS framework. But beyond the framework of a curriculum, sharing stories is just a good start for curious, thoughtful children — it’s a way for adults to model their own love of learning, and of reading.

Embedding that skill as a practitioner, Andy says, means you need to model that you value texts. Children see that in how you select stories, how you handle and treat the books themselves, and the way you share them with your children. By telling how important stories were to you when you were growing up, children start to understand how the stories we read know go with us for the rest of our lives.

The full Andy McCormack Interview

Andy McCormack on How We Learn to Love Reading

Enjoy the full 11-minute interview with Andy, where he and I discuss:

  • The factors that make a good children’s book
  • Why illustrations matter so much, and how they work with the text
  • Why children’s books are a great way to approach some core EYFS teachings
  • What makes children keep coming back to a particular story
  • Why we should think of the whole experience of storytelling for children
  • What you can do to tell a story in the best way possible
  • What makes stories memorable, and how you can draw from your own experiences
  • How personal children’s books can be, and why you should have one that speaks to every individual’s interest
  • His tips for keeping a healthy and well-stocked library at your setting
  • His personal favourite children’s books, both new and classic
  • How educators can model that they value storytelling to children
  • Why, if presented right, a good children’s book can stay with children their whole lives

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